Does anyone know what would happen if a dwarf put on the One Ring? I’m looking for a Tolkien scholar here, not just an opinion.
(I believe they’re resilient to change from the outside so they wouldn’t go invisible. I also have an instinct that LotR says somewhere that they could shrug off the effects of its corruption more easily than almost anyone, but would like confirmation.)
Pretty sure it would do the same as one of the Seven, but to a greater extent mentally. Physically, the Dwarves are too rooted in the world for it to turn them invisible or have any physical effect, though it may extend their life. The Seven are the same as the Nine, but all those did was make them more greedy and angry. Since the One is basically the same but way more powerful, I’m pretty sure the effects would just be maginified.
Thank you! This is very helpful.
Unfortunately I thought I had a really cool idea for a scene where one of the dwarves does try on the One Ring during the Hobbit era, and doesn’t turn invisible. But I’m also wrestling with the fact that even though the Ring was dormant during that time and probably wouldn’t have much impact at all if Bilbo got it back immediately, the reader would most likely be obsessing over the Ring as a plot device and wondering what happens, when all I really want the scene for is a bit of a joke. So I’m thinking I may just need to leave such a scene out entirely because it’ll cause too much confusion.
I did actually read a fic where the author touches on the not invisible thing briefly, and Thorin falls under the Rings thrall for a minute. It may not work as a joke, but it’s definitely floating around.
That was probably @mithen‘s Clarity of Vision, if I recall correctly (an excellent fic). It’s kind of a shame that the Ring looms so large in everyone’s mind, because when The Hobbit was written it really was just intended to be an invisibility ring, and that concept is woven into the fabric of the story. It really does take decades for the Ring to wake up enough to be anything more than a harmless party trick, but every time I’ve used it as device in fics it’s caught the reader’s attention as a dire threat, which is a shame because of all the fun one can have with the power of invisibility in a story.
Question: could it be argued that the ring, though dormant, could awaken should it sense the possibility of finding a will it could control? I’m asking because if this happened say, post-locating the arkenstone, right when thorin is under the thrall of the gold sickness, it could make for a very interesting turn of events. It’s a suggestion for op and I was curious to see how it’d hold up against lore.
could the One Ring help explain why Bilbo was so ready to rationalize stealing the Arkenstone? (in the novel) he’d worn it for a long time by then (thanks to the whole elvish dungeons thing), and it wasn’t as dormant as you might think, given it still managed to abandon Gollum.
Bilbo rationalizing that the stone could be his share, when he knew the dwarves would never accept anyone else having it.. seems so out of character for him.
Now THAT is something I could absolutely get on board with as an interpretation. It’s a great point that the Ring decided to leave Gollum because it realized he wasn’t going anywhere out of that mountain, so it was in fact active, though I believe Tolkien mentions that it very badly was hoping to end up with a goblin instead and the whole Forces Besides the Will of Evil thing is it getting to Bilbo instead of one of those goblins.
What I like most about this point is that it distinguishes between book and movie canon. Yeah, in the book, Bilbo’s motivations around taking the Arkenstone are not 100% pure, in fact the whole bargaining chip use for it was not something he could have planned in advance, he really did take it out of greed, and it is weird that he keeps it even knowing how badly Thorin wants it. They changed that in the film so his motivations are entirely altruistic by adding Smaug’s warning and Thorin’s sickness.
Bilbo also goes on to lie that he won the ring from Gollum fair and square in a riddle contest (ie, the first published edition of the hobbit book) and only later it came out that he stole it then did the riddle game to escape (the second edition of the hobbit book, lol) so it definitely was changing his behavior back then, but mostly causing him to lie about his possessions, and arguably, to hoard things. Very interesting!




