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In an Effort to (Help) Save the World

Of all the universes they could have had, this was theirs: A Newton Geiszler shaped thing trussed up in a cell, and Hermann Gottlieb desperate and unable to give up hope.
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To save Newton’s life, Hermann is driven to tinker with the very handwriting of god.


Chapter 22: Little One

In two worlds, a plan unfolds in the depths of the earth.

This chapter is the beginning of the end! From now until chapter 25, I will be posting every two to three days. If you’ve been waiting to read this until the end, well, the end is nigh, and this is a great time to begin.

I know we joke a lot about how both of the science boys are convinced that THEY’RE the normal one of the two. But honestly, they’re both very unusual in a lot of ways. My question is do you think they’re both aware of how unique they are? How much has being different fed into their sense of self? Because the human race is at war and that’s got to lead to a siege mentality within the Shatterdome, and being the last remaining members of K-Science can’t help with that.

I think they know, but they couch it to themselves in their own internal narrative as like… just the way they choose to present themselves as per their preferred “cool” subculture (how others see their “cool” subculture is another matter entirely).

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Let’s start with Hermann. I’m 100% convinced Hermann knows he is an eccentric and embraces this ideal about himself. But what kind of eccentric he thinks he is is very different from how other people see him. He sees himself as like… Oxford professor, throw-back to the days where people had culture, damnit. His heroes were WWII era scientists like Alan Turing and by God, he knows his place in history and he’s going to live up to it. I think he misses out on the part where like… wearing slacks that aren’t tailored quite right and granny glasses makes him look less “respectable academic” and more “cosplaying your grandmother”. He’s trying so hard to be this intense, serious academic, and comes across a bit ridiculous as a result. Like how he makes his rants like the “Handwriting of God” speech deadly serious, and seems to have zero irony or awareness that other people are literally “wtf-ing” behind him and even Stacker is kinda ??? about why this subject came up at all. He’s very intense, very earnest, and completely unaware that no one else really sees him as he sees himself. 

Meanwhile, Newt genuinely thinks of himself as a rockstar. He dresses like a member of Good Charlotte circa 2005 or maybe just like one of the Blues Brothers. He’s got the tattoos and the glasses. He’s painfully hipster (god I bet he ironically drank PBR in Boston before the Kaiju landed) with that nerd subsection of being at least mildly otaku-ish with the Kaiju obsession thing. He definitely loved the concept of Kaiju before it was cool, i.e. before they showed up for real. He buys into his own rockstar image buuuut, like Hermann trying to pull off the “respectable professor” thing I’m not sure Newt pulls off the “rockstar vibe” to the extent he’s aiming for it, given he comes across as more “hyperactive and shrieky”, and I think his attempt at “ironic nerdom” with the glasses and tie are just seen as “actually nerdy”. 

To the second half of your question,I think in the last days of the Shatterdome under Pentecost you had a lot of big personalities. People to whom being part of the “The Resistance” was more important than, say, being paid, or just living out the final days of Earth with their loved ones. Everyone is kinda eccentric and aware of their own importance in that Shatterdome. It’s the opposite of a faceless organization (and probably a lot of that is GDT going by “The Rule of Cool” – everyone is really, really cool). But I also think Pentecost let a lot of regulation go by the wayside so he could recruit these best and brightest, and for Newt that was certainly a draw, who likes to march to the beat of his own drum and respects people who let him do that. Whereas for Hermann I think it was more about Doing What Must Be Done, especially after his father backed the Wall of Life, he had to make a stand with the person making the biggest stand.

Do you think either of them cross the line when they’re arguing during the first war? Ask them both separately and they’d both say that absolutely yes (Hermann especially) but it’s clear they both keep getting drawn back to each other. But do either of them actually, properly hurt the other with their fighting?

Oh, absolutely, Anon!

I’d actually go so far as to say the famous moment when Hermann says Newt’s intelligence about the Precursors is “Impossible!” in PR1 was crossing a line, so we see it on screen. It’s in part because Newt doesn’t see the gesture for what it is: Hermann trying to protect Newt not only from himself and another Drift, but from Pentecost’s inevitable orders to do it again. He’s trying to discredit Newt to save him. 

My suspicion is that as long it’s an attack on things they can debate, all is fair game. They constantly debate things like the other’s intelligence and effectiveness as a scientist. Those are matters that are up for debate. I think Newt spilling guts on Hermann’s side is an ongoing debate over the placement of the line itself, to make a point. The reason Hermann claiming the findings were “impossible” was so offensive to Newt–I mean he literally looks thunderstruck and betrayed in a way he did not when Hermann criticized the experiment in the first place–is because it’s not a matter that’s up for debate scientifically. The experiment clearly worked, it functioned as intended (though side-effects may vary, Newton…). 

Things that are not up for debate are things they can’t effect themselves. Hermann can choose to have a less awful haircut, but he can’t choose not to have the limp. I think it’s also an ironclad personal principle of Newt’s to never bring up the limp as well. It’s a little harder to pinpoint a line Hermann won’t cross with regards to Newton, but there is respect there, and I at least headcanon that only they are allowed to insult one another’s careers. Hermann is a scientist, he is informed on when Newt is wasting his time on an experiment or is “desperate to be right” while chasing a dead end. However, I do think they’d defend one another against outsider attacks. If someone else called out Newt as annoying or a waste of resources, I think Hermann would be outraged (same goes for Newt on Hermann’s behalf). Edit: just to add because I agreed with reblog tags, if Newt is on medication for ADHD or anything similar, Hermann would consider that totally off limits, especially from outsiders. I also think if any outside criticism of them smacked of old-school jocks vs. nerds bullying (like that K-Scienes are useless in general, or that either of them is a dweeb or something) they’d flip out on the other’s behalf. 

But yeah, I’d never want to put it out there that they had this idyllic cut-and-thrust style of argument going on that never tripped over the line. I think they trip over one another’s lines all the time (literally, in Newt’s case with the lab line). I think they say things that hurt more than intended. Otherwise I don’t think their fights would be as caustic as they are. But I also believe the fights themselves are a way of showing attention and care for one another, the last remaining source for intellectual and academic debate in their lives, and a welcome distraction from how well and truly fucked the world is. I don’t think they always read each other correctly, but I think when they do on occasion actually apologize to one another when they recognize a crossed line (”Ten years of experience, man, I’m very sorry.”) even if it comes across as flippant. They make it work. It’s apathy that would hurt them more than any level of line-crossing, and that’s the reason for Hermann’s betrayed expression in Uprising, I think, that Newt refuses to help in return (when Hermann has done so much for him) and doesn’t even consider Hermann’s theory about the Kaiju blood. (Though one must admit, there is a level of “turnabout is fair play” in that flippancy, given that Hermann was similarly dismissive of the Kaiju drift in PR1, soooo…)

If you’re taking prompts could we have a fic where Hermann tries (and fails) to flirt with Newton who doesn’t notice

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ALWAYS TAKING PROMPTS BABEY…im terrible at catching up with them (i definitely have some from june and august buried in my inbox i havent thought of inspo for yet) but..! (also this prompt is SO cute and i borrowed a passing comment from a ficlet i posted last week where hermann tries to flirt by sending a single heart emoji lmfao)


This isn’t the first time that Newt’s caught Hermann staring at him (Hermann, sometimes, likes to go the passive-aggressive route when Newt’s fucked up and glare at him from afar until Newt notices and comments), but it’s the first time that Newt can remember Hermann being so…blatant about it. And in a not-pissed way. He’s not even pretending to hide it. He’s just standing at his chalkboard, chalk poised, watching Newt’s every move: carrying specimens back and forth from the lab fridge, cutting open organs, tapping his scalpel against his workbench in time with the music playing over his earbuds. It’s enough that Newt thinks he must’ve spilled something on himself, or something. He pulls one earbud out. “Dude,” he says, “what gives?”

“Hm?” Hermann says. 

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So Raleigh and Mako have their iconic first face-to-face meeting at the helipad and people have written meta about how drift-memories show Mako silhouetted and haloed by the umbrella while Raleigh looks commanding and soulful. We know they’d been writing for a few years but do you have any strong headcanons about how Newton and Hermann first met face-to-face?

(For the record, I LOVE that meta about Raleigh and Mako that you’re referencing!)

This is a really interesting question, Anon! A lot of my headcanons kinda come about either because of fanfic I read that feels “right” or expediency for something I need in a story where I need an explanation that feels “right”. My headcanon about their first meeting is definitely a combination of those two. I think the @hermannhaslovedthestars webcomic does an EXCELLENT job and really solidified for me a sense of what happened, and a vague reference to that sort of set up (which I’ll describe below) even played into some dialogue I wrote for the latest Prisoners’ Dilemma chapter (hopefully forthcoming this week).

I’ll go into detail below, putting it below a cut so I can ramble ;P

So I think their first meeting was a huge disappointment for both of them, like soul-crushing. They had been writing canonically “passionate” letters to one another for years, the idea they were crushing hard on one another remotely is so ubiquitous in fanon it’s practically canon at this point. My thoughts on this draw from other PR meta I’ve enjoyed but they include:

– The letters helped filter out some of Newt’s more rambling and hyperactive interactions and leveled him out enough that he came across as, y’know, a normal human. It also let his genius shine in a way Hermann found appealing. 

– Likewise for Hermann–I was going to say that the letters helped Hermann come out of his shell but I just realized that’s fanon and not canon. Canonically, Hermann has no trouble butting into conversations he’s not a part of and saying rather embarrassing personal things like the “Handwriting of God” speech. At least when it comes to his field (which is the extent of how we see him really in the films) he’s not shy at all. So let’s let that fanon die for a second. 

– Really what the letters probably did for Hermann was make him less of a stern, judgmental jerk hung up on his work. He’s a bit of a forbidding person even (if not especially) with his social awkwardness. So I imagine it’s more that the letters allowed him the perceived privacy (see his rule about “public displays of affection”) to open up a bit and maybe even make flirtatious overtures and give compliments to Newt. So letters helped him come across as a normal human as well, one who can give displays of affection. 

– So then you’ve got this situation where both of them in person are so much more abrasive than they are over letters. Newt is too loud and chaotic and any playful jabs he makes probably don’t land right and end up stinging Hermann’s pride instead. Hermann is too stern and serious, a total killjoy, and his waspishness is on full display. He won’t do anything affectionate in public, where they probably met, so none of his softer side can come through. Newt is bouncing off the walls and not checking himself at all or slowing down to clarify his point or pad it with anything less than his unfiltered internal monologue.

– I see both of their worst social habits going into absolute overdrive as the first meeting progresses. They were both already super nervous, and then as things don’t click they get even more nervous, so they both fall back on their worst behavior instincts, insulting one another and trying to shore up their pride (which both have in spades, to the point of arrogance). This just makes matters worse and before you know it, they’re both in too deep to calm down and check in with one another and see if there’s been some kind of misunderstanding along the way. 

– All their worst fears about the other, and about this meeting, are realized. This is in part because I’m sure both had a best case scenario and a worst case scenario in their head, with nothing in between (even though reality is always in between), and it becomes this self-fulfilling prophecy when everything isn’t amazing and it’s not this incredible meeting of souls where finally all the social isolation they’ve felt elsewhere just melts away because they’re with each other.

– Because here’s the thing, our social habits don’t just go away when we’re with someone we care for. No one can read our minds. And it takes a bit of acclimation before even the most attentive soulmate can read what’s really happening in our heads. I think from the letters they thought they knew one another very well and, sure, they knew one another’s minds very well, but not their social cues like, “I insult people when I’m nervous,” for Newt or “I snap at people when I feel like I’ve lost control of a situation,” for Hermann. 

– By the way, Hermann canonically shows he cares by snapping at Newt, for example about his safety for the Drift experiment, disguised as criticism of the experiment itself, which Newt was unable to see for what it was. Meanwhile, Newt is like an immature kid on the playground: he pulls Hermann’s proverbial pigtails because he wants his attention, regardless of whether it’s positive or negative attention. But look at how he puffs up around Hannibal Chau as well and tries to impress him! Newt pokes the bear with people whose positive attention he craves, which are people he respects. If he didn’t respect Hermann, he wouldn’t care about getting his attention at all, but Hermann can’t read that about him.

– Most tragically though, I think both of them needed that meeting to be everything for them. They needed to see fireworks and hear the choirs of angels singing. At even the first sign of awkwardness, which could have even been just due to mistranslation or confusion, I think the first chink in the armor appeared, and then everything fell apart like dominoes after that as the anxiety level skyrocketed when things didn’t go as well as they had dreamed (and of course they didn’t, because they couldn’t). And that built the resentment as the other “betrayed” what Newt/Hermann needed from him, emotionally, to the point where it became a wall that was impossible to climb over without one of them, at least one of these two prideful, socially inept geniuses to back down. Someone needed to bend and say, “Hey, did I miss something?” but I also think, for the record, that both of them were bullied growing up and when you’re bullied you often learn 1) how to be a bully yourself and 2) how to not show weakness. So they locked themselves in a game of chicken where neither could back down from being a jerk because to admit weakness was to lose. The pen-pal becomes the enemy and neither knew how to stop it from spiraling further after that.

– I do think they both secretly know they “like” each other, or at least that they see themselves as “in the trenches” together and that they do have positive interactions (largely despite themselves) over the year, but in order to end the fighting, it really does take Hermann conceding that he cares whether or not Newt lives or dies with the “I’ll go with you,” line about the Drift. He’s conceding that Newt’s idea will work (which he resisted before) and helping Newt. Newt immediately construes it as a romantic overture because, well, it kind of is for them in a way that I consider borderline canonical given that the actors played them as in love in Uprising. Hermann ducks a little bit there and pleads “the end of the world” as a reason for his change of heart, but Newt basically disregards that (as he does many things Hermann says, lol) and makes it a friendship thing anyway which Hermann responds to as well, giving lie to his claim that it was pure business.

So to go back to that first meeting… I think it was a date. Maybe they met at a bar or a coffee shop. Maybe it was more romantic than that. Maybe one of them set it up to be a date and the other thought they’d meet before trying to date, and the wires got all crossed. But I absolutely believe that both built up this first meeting in their mind to such heights that there’s no way on earth that they wouldn’t walk away disappointed in some way, and that’s exactly what happened.

Edit: Actually, I wanted to add how I think that would play visually. 

I bet in their memories there is a visual change in the Drift from what “really” happened.

I bet both of them are larger than life in that memory. I bet in the memory of the first time they laid eyes on each other they both look amazing, like the hottest fanartist take on the other that you can imagine. Newt looks like a rockstar. Hermann looks like, well, Burn Gorman in a suit when he’s not trying to look “like Hermann” (which has a whole physicality around it to downplay how fucking hot that man really is). 

I bet it morphs. I bet they both start to take on aspects of a childhood bully the other had. Newt becomes sneering, Hermann becomes disdainful. They start to “look” like someone who is out to get them but maybe, just maybe, the attractiveness level doesn’t drop. Hey, if you’ve been bullied, if you’ve been socially awkward, then chance are you’ve been rejected by someone you perceived as attractive, to the point where attractiveness itself becomes forbidding. 

It could play into them making the other out to be some sort of obnoxious little goblin that’s out to get them: downplay the threat, make it ridiculous and mock it so it isn’t as scary. Hermann is constantly pointing out to others and himself how hopeless Newt is, Newt points out how Hermann’s (probably staggering) intelligence is pointless and basically just self-important noise. 

But to go back, I think visually in the Drift they’d see one another as “sneering” for most of their memories, but it would be like scars overlaying this borderline angelic or heroic first image of them informed by that love and hope that things would work between them, before they opened their goddamn stupid mouths and ruined it.

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Raleigh furrows his eyebrows in confusion here and I like to think that it’s because this is the moment he realized that Hermann and Newt are in love

Okay I have to add to this, because if you pay attention to Raleigh’s face in this scene it is the funniest thing.

First he looks at Hermann:

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Then he looks at Newt:

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He makes the mentioned above “furrows eyebrows in confusion” face:

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And after that he quickly turns his head so Newt won’t see the expression on his face:

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I’m still cracking up over this scene help.