You used the term “fae” and now that’s all I can think about every time I see Hermann’s face. Like, for all that Newton gives him flack for his haircut and his weird clothes, he’s also fully aware that he’s in love with someone who looks otherworldly in the best way possible (bonus points if he actually calls Hermann “fae” and that’s the weirdest compliment he’s ever received??)

Man, Burn Gorman and the directors have to put such a crazy amount of effort into make Hermann look like “that” instead of the elven prince that Gorman’s bone structure lends itself too. There’s like an insane amount of physical, comedic acting Burn does as Hermann to downplay how attractive he is. He twists his lips a lot, hunches over, fusses, and wears clothes especially in PR1 that simply don’t fit from the oversized jackets to the trousers belted at the waist that are a bit too short. These are pretty straightforward theatrical visual cues to make someone come off as “old” and unfashionable. It kinda reminds me of how Dick Van Dyke plays the old man in the original Mary Poppins. Not the least is the haircut, it just completely obscures that man’s insane bone structure.

So for me the joke is always that one day out of necessity, Hermann wears a tailored suit, maybe for some book cover photo shoot he’s obligated to go through in order to promote the sales and he grudgingly accepts the offered wardrobe change and even allows them to make him up a bit and fix his hair, and during a break he wanders back to the lab to get some work done, and like… everyone in the Shatterdome wonders if Hermann’s hot brother has showed up or something. 

Newt devolves into a dumbstruck, blushy puddle when he realizes what Hermann’s been hiding under the fussy professor/Turing cosplay. The next day Hermann goes back to his old wardrobe and barely even notices the second glances, he’s got bigger things to worry about than his appearance, so long as that lends itself to professional respect by wearing proper attire for his position, but Newt can never forget

The Prisoners’ Dilemma (21088 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 3/?
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors (Pacific Rim), Alice the Kaiju Brain (Pacific Rim)
Additional Tags: Kidnapping, Imprisonment, Mind Control, Possession, Past Relationship(s), Precursor Emissary Newton Geiszler, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence, Broken Engagement, Hacking, Engineering, Chains, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Dark, POV Hermann Gottlieb, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Ghost Drifting, Science, Explicit Language, Explicit Sexual Content, Blackmail, Hostage Situations, Pining, Mutual Pining, Love, Romance, Fluff, Domestic, Domestic Fluff, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Rescue
Summary:

One year after Newt abandoned Hermann to work for Shao Industries, Hermann decides to confront his ex-fiancé. Not with any intention of trying to win Newton back, of course, but only to gain some kind of closure, some answers for why he vanished so suddenly and avoided even speaking to Hermann ever since.

Except when Hermann confronts Newt in his home, he learns that Newt is under the control of the Precursors, and that they have every intention of killing Hermann to keep their secret. Newt strikes a desperate bargain to save Hermann’s life, which the Precursors accept with the condition of Newt’s good behavior, and that Hermann can never be allowed free again.

Now a prisoner, it is up to Hermann to try to free them both, while keeping the secret of his plan to do so from the man who knows him best in the world.


WHEW I CAN’T BELIEVE IT’S FINALLY DONE! Special thanks to Sansael for the beta assist, and all the wonderful encouragement! I hit a road block for this chapter made up of realizing JUST HOW COMPLEX the situation really was, and that took a while to work out and about three separate drafts. Later chapters shouldn’t take NEARLY as long to get out. I hope you enjoy!

The Prisoners’ Dilemma (10117 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 2/?
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors (Pacific Rim), Alice the Kaiju Brain (Pacific Rim)
Additional Tags: Kidnapping, Imprisonment, Mind Control, Possession, Past Relationship(s), Precursor Emissary Newton Geiszler, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence, Broken Engagement, Hacking, Engineering, Chains, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Dark, POV Hermann Gottlieb, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Ghost Drifting, Science, Explicit Language, Explicit Sexual Content, Blackmail, Hostage Situations, Pining, Mutual Pining, Love, Romance, Fluff, Domestic, Domestic Fluff, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Rescue
Summary:

One year after Newt abandoned Hermann to work for Shao Industries, Hermann decides to confront his ex-fiancé. Not with any intention of trying to win Newton back, of course, but only to gain some kind of closure, some answers for why he vanished so suddenly and avoided even speaking to Hermann ever since.

Except when Hermann confronts Newt in his home, he learns that Newt is under the control of the Precursors, and that they have every intention of killing Hermann to keep their secret. Newt strikes a desperate bargain to save Hermann’s life, which the Precursors accept with the condition of Newt’s good behavior, and that Hermann can never be allowed free again.

Now a prisoner, it is up to Hermann to try to free them both, while keeping the secret of his plan to do so from the man who knows him best in the world.


Chapter 2 is up! I’m heading away for a one week workshop so it may be a little while until the next chapter is up (I was going to hold off on sharing this one until it was totally ready to go but alas, life). In the meantime I hope you enjoy the continuation of our story!

The Prisoners’ Dilemma (5310 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 1/?
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors (Pacific Rim), Alice the Kaiju Brain (Pacific Rim)
Additional Tags: Kidnapping, Imprisonment, Mind Control, Possession, Past Relationship(s), Precursor Emissary Newton Geiszler, Implied/Referenced Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Alternate Universe – Canon Divergence, Broken Engagement, Hacking, Engineering, Chains, Angst, Hurt/Comfort, Dark, POV Hermann Gottlieb, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Ghost Drifting, Science, Explicit Language, Explicit Sexual Content, Blackmail, Hostage Situations, Pining, Mutual Pining, Love, Romance, Fluff, Domestic, Domestic Fluff, Other Additional Tags to Be Added, Rescue
Summary:

One year after Newt abandoned Hermann to work for Shao Industries, Hermann decides to confront his ex-fiancé. Not with any intention of trying to win Newton back, of course, but only to gain some kind of closure, some answers for why he vanished so suddenly and avoided even speaking to Hermann ever since.

Except when Hermann confronts Newt in his home, he learns that Newt is under the control of the Precursors, and that they have every intention of killing Hermann to keep their secret. Newt strikes a desperate bargain to save Hermann’s life, which the Precursors accept with the condition of Newt’s good behavior, and that Hermann can never be allowed free again.

Now a prisoner, it is up to Hermann to try to free them both, while keeping the secret of his plan to do so from the man who knows him best in the world.

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Woo it’s finally up! You may know this story as my “Kidnapping AU” and have already seen the alert, but I wanted to get back into the flow of the chapter headers. Story should be clear from the summary, but in essence this story is canon divergence that asks the question: What if Hermann had confronted Newt about his disappearance waaaay back in Year 2 of the possession? The answer: not what Hermann was expecting.

Hermann becomes the Precursor’s hostage, his safety held against Newt to make him work harder for their plan, while Hermann tries to figure out a way to free them both without being caught (and killed) in the process. Also, whoops, Newt is a direct (unwilling) conduit to the Precursors and knows Hermann better than anyone. But amidst all the darkness and fear, Hermann wouldn’t have it any other way, because at least Newt isn’t alone in this, and slowly they begin to find their way back to one another again. I hope you enjoy!

I loved that piece you wrote on weird, slightly-shallow awkward Newton Geizler because you’re right, fandom can sometimes ignore their favourite characters’ flaws but it’s SO MUCH more interesting to see them warts and all. Do you have any thoughts on how the K-Science boys deal with each others flaws and negative character traits? Because there’s mutual respect but christ, neither of them are perfect and they both KNOW the worst of the other and yet they’re still together. It’s fascinating.

Oh gosh, I’m so pleased you liked my little bit of meta! (I just went back and re-read it to refresh myself on what I said, lol). And this is a really fascinating question!

I think to start you’d have to list their flaws. 

Newt: selfish (I’m a doctor!), self-centered (making Hermann’s lab life miserable with the entrails, the Drift experiment being partially out of desire for attention and to be right), messy (Kaiju entrails), maybe a bit shallow (with his fashion sense and body art), un-empathetic (talks about how cool Kaiju are around people who have lost family to the Kaiju), often deliberately obnoxious (literally everything with Hermann), hyperactive and screechy (Charlie Day), immature (in many senses, but also in his fanboy qualities), Down to Fight at all times (“Is it impossible?!”), can’t keep a secret ( “… I’m gonna tell you.”), reckless and impulsive (the Kaiju Drift), arrogant and wants to be the center of attention (I mean…  basically everything about him). Obviously he has many virtues which I’ve described elsewhere, but that’s not the point of this post.

Hermann: cantankerous (he’s 36 going on 80),  a busy body with his nose in other people’s business (“Please excuse him, he’s a Kaiju grrrrroupie.”), spiteful (it may not be on purpose but he kicks water at Newt in their very first scene, and just in general this is true of him), smug (about how Newt is wrong), arrogant (literally everything about how he puts down Newt and his theories), dismissive (“Politics, poetry, these are lies.”), impatient with others (though that could just be Newt, who could drive anyone to madness), cold (at least outwardly towards Newt, many of his insults cut close to the bone), authoritarian (Hermann appeals to military authority and clearly admires it) and just all around difficult to deal with. Interestingly, many of these traits are gone by Uprising, while “Newt” gets a whole new batch of very different flaws. And again it should be stressed, Hermann has many virtues including but not limited to his intellect, his determination, his drive, his raw courage, and his persistence in the face of dismissal, discomfort, and disability. 

And by the way, both of them think they’re the “normal” one who needs to look out for their obnoxious colleague and I just cannot with them they are both heinously difficult human beings in the best way lol. 

And now onto how the Newmann ship would deal with these flaws:

I think a lot of how Newt and Hermann would deal with one another’s flaws is that they have been dealing with them for years now already. These flaws are not new or shocking to them, nor have they driven the other away. Clearly, they tolerate one another when anyone else would have withdrawn to a safe distance or just abandoned them entirely. They clearly care for each other in spite of if not because of these flaws. Even pre-Drift they try to protect one another from their most dangerous fascinations (Newt his obsession with the Kaiju, Hermann his attraction to the military). 

Clearly they have flaws that do genuinely drive the other to distraction. Newt seems genuinely upset when Hermann dismisses his theory and his findings regarding the Kaiju Drift. But on Hermann’s side, the proposal of that Drift seems to have genuinely touched a nerve of fear on Newt’s behalf that he covers up with snideness and dismissal.

I’ve always gone with the theory that it’s more their method of communication with one another that was clashing. Hermann didn’t understand Newt’s obnoxiousness towards him was the equivalent of pulling pigtails, that Newt wanted Hermann’s attention and regard. Newt couldn’t understand that Hermann’s dismissal of Newt’s obsessions was his way of trying to protect Newt. It’s one reason I think the Drift fused them into a functional whole after so many years of clashing, it finally showed them through a direct mind connection what they had failed to communicate. All the times they had been sincere when the other thought they were joking, and vice versa. Their method of communication. Their respect for one another hidden beneath a prickly surface. The way they’d both tried to hide their vulnerabilities from one another and thus both come off as distant, cold, and uncaring to one another. I have no doubt that the “instant hatred” at that first meeting after the letters was because both of them had such high expectations but didn’t know how to communicate with one another outside of written format where everything could be cleanly expressed.

That said, I think that before and after the Drift they actually do love one another for their “flaws”. I think Newt and Hermann are both heinously arrogant when it comes to their intelligence and their field, and I think they love that about one another, albeit secretly at first, or perhaps rather what that arrogance is a result of and how it translates. They’re both tops of their field, poised on the eccentric edge of it, they’re both the very best at what they do, and I don’t think either of their personalities could stand to be around someone who wasn’t on their level intellectually, or someone who tried to be modest about those accomplishments.

I think Hermann’s busy-bodyness is one way that Newt knows he cares. Newt would be at a genuine loss if Hermann stopped poking his nose in, as a sign that he’d stopped caring. Likewise, if Newt stopped being deliberately obnoxious to Hermann it would mean the same thing: apathy would be far worse than needling. Hermann probably wouldn’t know what to do with himself. There’s a compelling case to be made that the sniping serves a dual purpose in these final days of war which is to keep both of them from having a screaming breakdown over the stress and the sheer unholy knowledge of how fucked the world is, so when they’re bitching about little arguments and annoyances they’re not thinking about the void that’s about to open up beneath their feet.

I think Newt’s hyperactivity and fanboy qualities and general devil-may-care attitude is refreshing for Hermann and his authoritarian upbringing. I think on his own Hermann would retreat into an isolation he’d verbally claim he prefers but which would eat away at him. He may gripe about it, but he thrives and seeks Newt pulling him out of himself. Likewise I think Newt is always seeking validation. By being such a difficult person who doesn’t flatter others easily, Hermann’s regard is worth that much more and it could serve as a grounding influence on Newt to know there’s someone out there who sticks by him and engages him intellectually, even if they don’t always agree (they don’t need to agree if it’s a matter of intellectual debate). Even when arguing, Hermann validates Newt by never dismissing him from his presence or truly giving up on him, another reason the dismissal of the Kaiju Drift clearly is hurtful and unexpected to Newt (who can’t read it as a protective action). 

They call one another on their bullshit. They’re not personalities who need to be coddled or told they’re right all the time or flattered. They might respond initially to flattery, and even get puffed up about it and smugly rub it in the other’s face, but it would wear thin. They’d realize the thrill and rush of flattery is dissatisfying. That they’d rather earn the other’s aggressive debate than the fawning of lesser minds. Even when Newt is showing off to Hannibal Chau it’s because he clearly identifies an equal in his field, albeit a black hat to his white hat, a criminal to his academic. They want to impress equals and they serve as equals to one another. 

I think anything beyond this would go well into fanon speculation. The last note I’d say on Uprising, because they become such different characters there, is that clearly Hermann is stunned when Newt won’t help him. Clearly in PR1 Newt is stunned when Hermann won’t back him up that the Drift worked when it clearly did. That tells me that even at their lowest, they supported one another, even if they might grumble about it. The grumbling is half the fun.

COMPLETE!
The Only Way Out is Down (100671 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 16/16
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Jake Pentecost
Additional Tags: Post-Movie: Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018), Literary References & Allusions, Coma, Rescue, Newton Geiszler is a Dork, POV Newton Geiszler, Newton Geiszler Recovery Arc, Mind Control Aftermath & Recovery, Dreamscapes, Past Relationship(s), Other Additional Tags to Be Added, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Hell, Inferno AU, Stream of Consciousness, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, Explicit Language, Past Mind Control, POV Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors are super dead, Memory Loss, Memory Alteration, Bickering, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Kissing, Canon-Typical Violence, Injury, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Explicit Sexual Content, Consensual Sex, Hurt/Comfort, Seduction, Cuddling & Snuggling, Fluff, Angst, Trauma, Therapy
Summary:

The invasion of the Anteverse was successful, and the Precursors have been destroyed, but Newt still hasn’t awoken from his coma and doesn’t respond initially to Drift attempts from Hermann to wake him.

But when one day a connection is established, Hermann and Newt find themselves in a mingled mindscape that seems informed by Dante’s “Inferno”. Together, they pass through the Nine Circles of Hell, nine memories of Newt’s years under Precursor control in the hopes that doing so will free Newt from his own head.

Yet questions linger: how much did the Precursors take from Newt, to what lengths will Hermann go to free him, and is the other even truly there, or merely a rabbit of the other’s making, a product of wish fulfillment and fantasy that they’re chasing into the abyss?


OH MY GOD, it’s DONE guys! Special thanks to IDoNotBiteMyThumbAtYou and kingofsasslocks for the beta help! So sorry for the delay but this chapter is quite long in recompense. I do hope you enjoy, thank you for coming on this journey with me!

Can you imagine Hermann as a pilot (still the same math genius, still involved in the programming of the Jaegar he pilots with his sister) but slightly less insufferable because he doesn’t have the same chip on his shoulder over failing the pilot program at the Academy. But he’s still insufferable due to the stress that affects everyone at the Shatterdome and the loud & obnoxious head of K-Science hate-flirting with him in the dining hall doesn’t help :D

Oh yeah, dude! I mean, I wrote a fic where he got to be a Jaeger pilot with Newt as his co-pilot. 

I totally agree that Hermann wanted to be a Jaeger pilot, and that some of the chip on his shoulder and unnecessary saluting is a result of that dream maybe not working out. Most likely it was his illness/injury (whatever is the issue with his leg) that prevented him from becoming one (though wouldn’t it be interesting if it was a lack of Drift compatible partner? And then Newt comes along? I mean, Hermann never even questioned that they’d be compatible and there’s definitely a fic in there somewhere). 

But my bigger head canon is that pre-Kaiju, Hermann’s lifelong dream was to become an astronaut. I mean, it’s not like joining the Army, becoming an astronaut requires so much mathematical and scientific knowledge, I headcanon that the ambitionis what got him into the sciences in the first place when he was a kid (back in the “Space Champion” days). Transitioning that desire over to wanting to become a Jaeger pilot was only natural. Being at the forefront of the war in the K-Sciences studying the Breach and programming Jaegers was only natural when that dream failed. 

But yeah, I think Hermann would have been a fabulous Jaeger pilot, if perhaps a difficult one to work with even then. And I think it’s obvious (if not canonical??) that that was his dream. 

The Only Way Out is Down (81887 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 15/16 – To Rebehold the Stars – Hermann
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Jake Pentecost
Additional Tags: Post-Movie: Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018), Literary References & Allusions, Coma, Rescue, Newton Geiszler is a Dork, POV Newton Geiszler, Newton Geiszler Recovery Arc, Mind Control Aftermath & Recovery, Dreamscapes, Past Relationship(s), Other Additional Tags to Be Added, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Hell, Inferno AU, Stream of Consciousness, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, Explicit Language, Past Mind Control, POV Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors are super dead, Memory Loss, Memory Alteration, Bickering, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Kissing, Canon-Typical Violence, Injury, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Explicit Sexual Content, Consensual Sex, Hurt/Comfort, Seduction, Cuddling & Snuggling, Fluff, Angst, Trauma, Therapy
Summary:

The invasion of the Anteverse was successful, and the Precursors have been destroyed, but Newt still hasn’t awoken from his coma and doesn’t respond initially to Drift attempts from Hermann to wake him.

But when one day a connection is established, Hermann and Newt find themselves in a mingled mindscape that seems informed by Dante’s “Inferno”. Together, they pass through the Nine Circles, nine memories of Newt’s years under Precursor control in the hopes it will help free Newt from his own head.

Yet questions linger: how much did the Precursors take from Newt, to what lengths will Hermann go to free him, and is the other even truly there, or merely a rabbit of the other’s making, a wish fulfillment fantasy that they’re chasing into the abyss?


Almost to the end! I hope you guys enjoy this chapter! 😀

The Only Way Out is Down (76568 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 14/16 – Treachery, part 2 – Newt
Fandom: Pacific Rim (Movies)
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Newton Geiszler/Hermann Gottlieb
Characters: Newton Geiszler, Hermann Gottlieb, Jake Pentecost
Additional Tags: Post-Movie: Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018), Literary References & Allusions, Coma, Rescue, Newton Geiszler is a Dork, POV Newton Geiszler, Newton Geiszler Recovery Arc, Mind Control Aftermath & Recovery, Dreamscapes, Past Relationship(s), Other Additional Tags to Be Added, The Drift (Pacific Rim), Drift Side Effects, Hell, Inferno AU, Stream of Consciousness, Worried Hermann Gottlieb, Explicit Language, Past Mind Control, POV Hermann Gottlieb, Precursors are super dead, Memory Loss, Memory Alteration, Bickering, BAMF Hermann Gottlieb, Kissing, Canon-Typical Violence, Injury, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Explicit Sexual Content, Consensual Sex, Hurt/Comfort, Seduction, Cuddling & Snuggling, Fluff, Angst, Trauma, Therapy
Summary:

The invasion of the Anteverse was successful, and the Precursors have been destroyed, but Newt still hasn’t awoken from his coma and doesn’t respond initially to Drift attempts from Hermann to wake him.

But when one day a connection is established, Hermann and Newt find themselves in a mingled mindscape that seems informed by Dante’s “Inferno”. Together, they pass through the Nine Circles, nine memories of Newt’s years under Precursor control in the hopes it will help free Newt from his own head.

Yet questions linger: how much did the Precursors take from Newt, to what lengths will Hermann go to free him, and is the other even truly there, or merely a rabbit of the other’s making, a wish fulfillment fantasy that they’re chasing into the abyss?


Oh my GOD I can’t believe the rewrite is finally finished. Thank you all for your patience. If you’ve set up for the subscription alert, you’ll know I actually posted this in the middle of the night because I was so desperate to get it out there but I wanted to do one more cleanup pass before I posted the chapter alert here. I hope you enjoy!