A BAGGINSHIELD DISCORD – OPEN INVITATION
Hi everyone! As discussed a while ago, I’ve finally put together a Bagginshield Discord server, where we can all meet and chat about our favorite dwarf/hobbit combo, and much more! If you’ve never used Discord before, imagine a friendlier, larger version of Skype, where a lot of people are free to talk about a lot of things, dwarves and hobbits included. Just head on over through the link to find out more 🙂 and boost to let everyone know!
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👑 @emsiecat requested the confession scene from Prayers to Broken Stone by @avelera via patreon! 👑
coloring scales was challenging, but I really liked the final result!
UMMM, HOW DID I MISS THIS????
WOW, thank you SO MUCH to @emsiecat for requesting this and to @rutobuka2 for the art??? I’m completely overwhelmed by the beauty of this seriously it’s like staring into the sun.
A few favorite parts (OF MANY):
– The COLORS, duke, the COLORS! The shading and lighting are just amazing, truly Ruto you’ve outdone yourself. I feel like I can see each tear in Bilbo’s clothes. They actually LOOK LIKE they’ve spent DAYS down in pit that is Erebor, properly travel stained as I could have only imagined and just wow I am in awe of your art.
– THE EXPRESSIONS – Bilbo looks PISSED and desperate which is how he’s supposed to look this is just so amazingly capturing the emotions and they look so perfect and in character I just LOVE IT.
– Thorin’s claws look properly horrifying and his face just makes my heart ache. Wow just everything, the colors the clothing the expressions, the lighting, I want to clutch this picture to my chest and never let go oh wow aoidjasoidjsad
With regards to “Annihilation” by Patton Oswalt making me think of Bagginshield, it was specifically the part where he discusses survivor’s guilt
I think… I think one thing the movie really stressed was Thorin’s heroism, it’s not there in the books as much until the last moment, but I can so convincingly imagine Bilbo’s just… utter blank shock and outrage that he’s alive when Thorin isn’t. Like “The power-that-be looked down at the two of us, one a middle aged hobbit with nothing to live for, who had wasted most of his life on fripperies before going on this one adventure where he learned how to give a damn about something that wasn’t his own comfort, and then Thorin, who had struggled and fought and suffered for decades to give a home to his people, who was literally on the doorstep of expelling evil from his homeland and avenging his family members, and those powers thought, you know what, I’ll take that one.”
I can just imagine Bilbo saying it with that same angry humor, that shocked outrage where you can only laugh. I can’t even work the line into a fic because at this point it would just be outright stolen because Oswalt put it so perfectly.
Combine that later with the part about innocent 6 year olds asking about the death, just not processing it, and you can imagine Bilbo telling the story of the journey to the children in the Shire and them asking all those uncomfortable questions like “Did you cry when he died? Did it hurt? What did you do next?” and Bilbo just having to sort of smile and laugh and hold it together because they’re just children, and he’s supposed to be telling them a story, and it’s been years…
So uh, Bagginshielders, guys, do not watch the second half of Patton Oswalt’s Netflix comedy special “Annihilation” thinking about Bilbo talking about Thorin’s death. Or do. Alone it is the definition of laughing while crying, but as a meditation on the devastation and humor that comes from losing a loved one it is basically unparalleled.
I just finished a Bagginshield reimagining of Dr Jekyll/Mr. Hyde with Bilbo being Dr. Jekyll w/ an evil alter ego–and I just got to thinking about doing the reverse–with Thorin being afflicted. King Thorin of Erebor with the alter ego of Gold-Mad Thorin at night. Just as a thought!
Gah, I had to stop this one before it consumed me! Written to Ludovico Einaudi’s “Ascolta” – what a wonderful prompt!
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It was meant to be a cure.
Hidden amongst the stacks of Erebor’s great library, written in the most ancient tongue of the nauglath, a clan of dwarves once loyal to the Enemy and now long gone, long dead, it was the only cure he had ever found for his sickness. For the dragon sickness. The wicked dwarves, they were called, but they had known of his malady, known because of their hand in creating its dark obsessions.
It came down in their runic tablets as a simple formula, but of dreadful ingredients. A cure for the madness of gold, but it threatened a cure as terrible as the disease. Even so, why had his grandfather never tested it? What horrors did it hold, that even as his kingdom crumbled around him, Thror had dared this last, desperate measure to banish the ancient curse from his mind?
Was the risk so great, or was he only so far gone in his own mind that by the time necessity overcame the risk, it was too late?
Thorin had no such luxury, and he had no time.
His people were masters of the substances of the earth, not only of metal and stone. Even elves did not share the depths of their knowledge, and the wicked creatures of the Enemy could only create shadows, mockeries of the gifts given by Mahal. But this was a formula created by wicked dwarves. Who knew what lay within its subtle workings? Did he truly dare?
Yet when Thorin closed his eyes he felt the rising tide of nausea. The sickly haze of gold that played in his eyes and across his skin as flame. It mirrored the sickness within, so briefly banished when he wrenched himself free of its influence to storm the battlefield, so briefly held at bay when his sickbed was a simple tent of wood and cloth without a coin or jewel in sight.
He had kept the horror to himself, the realization when he stepped back within the hallowed halls of Erebor, pale and limping from his wounds but surrounded by the cheering of his subjects, his kin, and his loved ones, that a greater sickness lay within. A crouched, hulking shadow, slavering in wait for him, for his mind, his soul. Already he felt drifting in his mind the desire to wallow amongst the treasure like some twisted wyrm, to banish all living creatures from his realm, to kill any who disobeyed.
Thorin swallowed back the wave of nausea before it could overwhelm him, and opened his eyes. The formula was on the table, pulsing and phosphorescent. If all creatures of the earth showed their intentions in their form, then this was a form of waiting evil. And yet, what choice did he have? Those amongst the good, the wise, had no cure for his grandfather’s sickness, for his sickness.
It was for his family he did this, for his nephews, and cousins, his people. For Balin and Dwalin, for Bilbo. It was for himself. He wanted to remember again, what it was like to stand proud amongst them, to flinch and cower at every mention of the treasure that surrounded them. It was growing worse. He hid it well but ever it was growing worse, and soon they would know. He did not know how much time he had left as himself. There was no choice.
There was no choice.
Alone in the crypts beneath the city, Thorin raised the fruits of his long labor to his lips. His eyes clenched tight, a trickle of moisture at the corner of his eyes. He hesitated. Could there not be some other way than this, not knowing whether or not he would survive it, if what survived it would be him?
His company’s faces flashed once more in his mind and amongst them himself, as he had once been.
Thorin swallowed the potion.
I just finished a Bagginshield reimagining of Dr Jekyll/Mr. Hyde with Bilbo being Dr. Jekyll w/ an evil alter ego–and I just got to thinking about doing the reverse–with Thorin being afflicted. King Thorin of Erebor with the alter ego of Gold-Mad Thorin at night. Just as a thought!
Gah, I had to stop this one before it consumed me! Written to Ludovico Einaudi’s “Ascolta” – what a wonderful prompt!
–
It was meant to be a cure.
Hidden amongst the stacks of Erebor’s great library, written in the most ancient tongue of the nauglath, a clan of dwarves once loyal to the Enemy and now long gone, long dead, it was the only cure he had ever found for his sickness. For the dragon sickness. The wicked dwarves, they were called, but they had known of his malady, known because of their hand in creating its dark obsessions.
It came down in their runic tablets as a simple formula, but of dreadful ingredients. A cure for the madness of gold, but it threatened a cure as terrible as the disease. Even so, why had his grandfather never tested it? What horrors did it hold, that even as his kingdom crumbled around him, Thror had dared this last, desperate measure to banish the ancient curse from his mind?
Was the risk so great, or was he only so far gone in his own mind that by the time necessity overcame the risk, it was too late?
Thorin had no such luxury, and he had no time.
His people were masters of the substances of the earth, not only of metal and stone. Even elves did not share the depths of their knowledge, and the wicked creatures of the Enemy could only create shadows, mockeries of the gifts given by Mahal. But this was a formula created by wicked dwarves. Who knew what lay within its subtle workings? Did he truly dare?
Yet when Thorin closed his eyes he felt the rising tide of nausea. The sickly haze of gold that played in his eyes and across his skin as flame. It mirrored the sickness within, so briefly banished when he wrenched himself free of its influence to storm the battlefield, so briefly held at bay when his sickbed was a simple tent of wood and cloth without a coin or jewel in sight.
He had kept the horror to himself, the realization when he stepped back within the hallowed halls of Erebor, pale and limping from his wounds but surrounded by the cheering of his subjects, his kin, and his loved ones, that a greater sickness lay within. A crouched, hulking shadow, slavering in wait for him, for his mind, his soul. Already he felt drifting in his mind the desire to wallow amongst the treasure like some twisted wyrm, to banish all living creatures from his realm, to kill any who disobeyed.
Thorin swallowed back the wave of nausea before it could overwhelm him, and opened his eyes. The formula was on the table, pulsing and phosphorescent. If all creatures of the earth showed their intentions in their form, then this was a form of waiting evil. And yet, what choice did he have? Those amongst the good, the wise, had no cure for his grandfather’s sickness, for his sickness.
It was for his family he did this, for his nephews, and cousins, his people. For Balin and Dwalin, for Bilbo. It was for himself. He wanted to remember again, what it was like to stand proud amongst them, to flinch and cower at every mention of the treasure that surrounded them. It was growing worse. He hid it well but ever it was growing worse, and soon they would know. He did not know how much time he had left as himself. There was no choice.
There was no choice.
Alone in the crypts beneath the city, Thorin raised the fruits of his long labor to his lips. His eyes clenched tight, a trickle of moisture at the corner of his eyes. He hesitated. Could there not be some other way than this, not knowing whether or not he would survive it, if what survived it would be him?
His company’s faces flashed once more in his mind and amongst them himself, as he had once been.
Thorin swallowed the potion.
Okay for the fic ask meme, Coming home, 11, 12, 13, and 14, please.
Coming Home can be found here. Bagginshield, 3,727 words.
11. What do you like best about this fic?
I think I managed some decent Thorin and Bilbo characterization in it! It’s an interesting point for them, trying to show the blossoming of their relationship and square it with their in-movie interactions with one another. An argument could be made that they would never get so close so quickly as they do in the fic, but I treasure my headcanon that the sheer intimacy of that moment where Thorin lay dying held volumes of unspoken revelations between them that would be impossible to ignore had he lived, and they’d come to an acknowledgement of their feelings for one another pretty much immediately after that. As an example, consider how with only a nod on Ravenhill they held an entire conversation about Bilbo being there to help Thorin, that the sickness was gone, and that all was forgiven and they would fight at one another’s side. So anyway, while they’re a bit mushy together in the fic I think I still managed to have them so in a way that felt true to them even if the relationship develops very suddenly between two otherwise cantankerous people (they’re only that sweet with each other and only when very much alone).
12. What do you like least about this fic?
The opening. It was a prompt fic which means I tend to do a lot of recap at the beginning to bring readers up to speed with where I am in canon and where I’m branching off. The beginning feels rushed as a result and if I ever did more with the fic I’d probably re-write it.
13. What music did you listen to, if any, to get in the mood for writing this story? Or if you didn’t listen to anything, what do you think readers should listen to to accompany us while reading?
I usually listen to music when writing Bagginshield but this was written quite awhile ago so I don’t really remember. If I were to assign a song though I’d say “The Guy That Says Goodbye To You Is Out of His Mind” by Griffin House, which as a Bagginshield song from Bilbo’s POV (especially for the canon ending) makes me bawl every time.
14. Is there anything you wanted readers to learn from reading this fic?
I think this story had less of a lesson to it than fics of mine like Burning Low or Prayers to Broken Stone. I suppose if anything I’d want them to learn a little about how I see Thorin and Bilbo interacting as a couple in a canon where Thorin survived the battle. I think they’d be privately very sweet with one another, if sometimes snarky, I think they’d be caring and very honest with one another as a rule, and I think things would be… easy between them, in a way, like they fit together and I guess I wanted to share that vision of them.
Random Bilbo meta musing, but I think the reason fandom sometimes struggles with portraying Bilbo as the sarcastic little shit he is in canon is because he tends to be the author stand-in, which I frankly find completely understandable given that he was Tolkien’s author stand-in. And on a more serious level, he’s usually surrounded by weird shit that he’s commenting on and therefore that makes him look relatively normal, so fan writers are leaning towards showing Bilbo as “normal” (or even shy) as a result. Whereas when he’s in the Shire he’s the weirdest thing around, something that tends to not get highlighted when an author is doing what authors often do, which is throwing Bilbo into weird situations.
To be self-reflective, I think I’m just as guilty at failing to have Bilbo live up to his acerbic sarcasm potential, because I tend to write him in isolation with movie-verse Thorin. Book-verse Thorin/Bilbo is about as sarcastic as it gets (and damn do I love me some book-verse Bagginsield fics), but I think aside from Thorin’s thinly veiled dick reference eyebrow wiggle about not underestimating dwarves and Bilbo’s outraged bafflement aside, their moments together tend to be fairly quiet and respectful. When I write the two of them in a relationship, I tend to see their private lives as quiet, affectionate, and filled with a sort of stoic understanding of one another’s quirks (though their public life might contain banter). If I wrote more fics of Bilbo in isolation, or wearing his public face, I’d love to throw into them more of Bilbo’s canonical sarcasm and his temper which I also think gets undersold at times.
Which brings me, long rambling aside, to the fact y’all should read @andhumanslovedstories‘s Bilbo fics because quite frankly Margo_Kim’s got the best Bilbo-voice out there and I stand in constant seething awe.
One day it’ll grow, and every time I’ll look at it I’ll remember. The good, the bad… and how lucky I am that I made it home.
Honestly, if Thorin wasn’t like… weighted down by a mountain’s worth of responsibility and tragedy, and gave in to his true melodramatic calling which is to be a really inspirational action movie star and had a professorial boyfriend who is Bilbo who loves art and languages and dissecting the hell out of all of Thorin’s movies even the dumbest ones… I’m just saying, in a crackship funhouse mirror world, Thorin and Bilbo could totally be Lito and Hernando from Sense8