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Oh sweet merciful black baby Jesus can I please get an overly feminized, wilting flower Thorin? 😀 OOH with a side of DFP Bilbo!!?!

(oh my GOD, I hope you know I was in PHYSICAL PAIN trying to write this)

“… We will not be seeing our hobbit again. He is long gone,” Thorin said, and did his best to keep the tremor from his voice. Gone, run off or maybe dead in the Goblin Tunnels, but he couldn’t let it show on his face how the loss had hit him. Nevertheless he could feel tears pricking his eyes. It was all his fault. He had let his emotions get out of a hand and there had been nothing to do but snap at Master Baggins, or else the others would see how already his heart beat faster every time the hobbit was around.

“No. He isn’t.” One minute there was nothing, a voice from the shadow of the trees, the next Bilbo was stepping from nowhere, his face unreadable. Thorin froze, stricken at the sight. Had he heard? How could he have not heard? The party exclaimed around them but Thorin did not hear them, his gaze was fixed on their burglar, his heart beating treacherously fast in his breast.

“But why did you come back?” he whispered. Bilbo regarded him, eyes hard.

“Because you don’t have a home,” he looked to the distance and continued to walk, his shoulder jostling Thorin’s as he passed. Thorin barely heard as the burglar said under his breath, “But I will help you take it back, if I can.”

I used to do a Bagginshield prompt thing that was “give me a sad premise and I’ll make a happy ficlet” and “give me a happy premise and I’ll make a sad ficlet” but one thing I’d really love to do is something like “Give me a trope that is always used for writing Bilbo and I’ll write Thorin with it,” and vice versa :3

Thistle and Weeds (1717 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 1/9
Fandom: The Hobbit – All Media Types
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Bilbo Baggins/Thorin Oakenshield
Characters: Thorin Oakenshield, Bilbo Baggins, Thorin’s Company, Gandalf | Mithrandir, The One Ring
Additional Tags: Grief/Mourning, Eventual Happy Ending, Angst, Chases, The One Ring is Bad News, Dwarven Rings of Power, Haunting, Love, Metamorphosis, Nazgul – Freeform, Wakes & Funerals, Nazgul Thorin, Slow Build

Summary:
The Battle of the Five Armies is over, Fili has been crowned, and Thorin laid to rest with the Arkenstone and his father’s ring. It is time for Bilbo to make the long, grief-stricken journey back to Bag End, leaving his heart buried within the Mountain.

But the ring he carries has awakened greater forces. Bound together by fate and rings of power, Bilbo finds himself haunted upon the road by Thorin’s memory, and by something far more fearsome.

I’m sick of sitting on this, so even though it’s only about 2/3 written, let’s kick it out the door and see what happens! Some of you may recall the strange affair of my missing Nazgul Thorin fic, a mystery never fully explained…

Virgo and Scorpio Love Compatibility

Virgo and Scorpio enjoy working together toward acquisition: Virgo wants order and Scorpio wants power. Both of these Signs are about resources, including inheritances and property. This couple is very service-oriented and known to be dependable. They like to lend a hand to a friend or to the community. Additionally, Virgo can be withdrawn — while Scorpio is more opaque and outgoing. Because of disparity, both Signs can learn from one another if they can agree to meet halfway.

…What’s the best aspect of the Virgo-Scorpio relationship? It’s their ability to carry out goals when they put their minds to the task. When Scorpio realizes that Virgo is an asset and a leveling force in their life, this relationship will grow. Mutual determination and organization makes theirs a harmonious relationship.

So anyway, Bilbo is canonically a Virgo and from this moment on I declare along with @sinisterfeline​ that Thorin is a Scorpio because holy shit this site describes Bagginshield so perfectly that it’s almost spooky. 

Virgo and Scorpio Love Compatibility

“He was my friend.” 

You know, as a shipper I always presumed that was Bilbo sort of… understating how he felt for Thorin because the auctioneer didn’t deserve to know.

But I just had the horrible thought of… what if the realization that passed between them was just so silent… that after months on the road, Bilbo knew in his heart it was true, but wouldn’t presume. He knew he loved Thorin, but since it was never said back, he didn’t want to take liberties, he didn’t want to take anything from Thorin that Thorin had not given with words, even if it was or might be true

Not to underestimate how much Bilbo cares for the whole Company, but his speech about how dwarves can be stubborn and pig-headed and obstinant, but also loyal and kind… yeah it really sounds like he’s just describing Thorin with that “fond but exasperated husband” voice

Ok but I will NEVER be over the “dwarvish windlance” scene (what a fakeout for how Bard would kill Smaug that turned out to be -_-;;) because it’s the first time we see Thorin in red and Bilbo in blue.

And I know the color swap didn’t turn out to be quite as consequential as we expected based on trailers, but it’s still very interesting that the first time we see Thorin in red is just after he after he’s seen the Lonely Mountain so close. Whenever I look at his dragon sickness, I always debate whether or not he really began to show the first signs of it in Erebor with the gold, or here, looking at the windlance. 

Red, in the context of “The Hobbit” films, is not a positive color. On the surface level it may seem warm, but contextually it represents Smaug, and what does Smaug represent in the context of the story? Greed, sloth, pride, isolation. Bilbo is wearing red at the beginning of the story and he does show Smaug-like qualities. He doesn’t wish to leave his house, he’s extremely protective of his treasures like his mother’s dishes. He is reluctant to share his plentiful food, and though it’s a deviation from his book character, reluctant to have company over. We see him as extremely isolated, not enjoying the presence of Gandalf or other guests, not wanting people over. In effect, he is hoarding the many rooms and riches of Bag End to himself, treasures that he has no use for but will not part with.

Bit by bit, over the course of his journey, he loses the trappings of Bag End, of his hoard, of his comfortable, stagnant, and greedy life. He loses his brass buttons, he loses his red velvet coat, but though he’s becoming dirtier, these are positive changes. It’s the dirt of the road of adventure. He did gain the Ring in the Goblin Tunnels, but he’s not entirely lying to Gandalf when he says he gained his courage there too. By the time he reaches Lake-town he needs to change clothing. Keep in mind, the original Carrock hug scene was supposed to be an apology scene from Thorin after the barrels, where Bilbo came into his own as a hero, so in a version of the Hobbit which is over 2 films instead of 3 (as PJ wanted) Lake-town is where his heroic outfit change was supposed to happen as he goes from a passive to an active Company member, and becomes a hero.

Meanwhile, Thorin has now taken a step closer to his own corruption. Away from Erebor he’s heroic, loyal, a war hero and a family man. But Erebor is where Thorin comes closer to Smaug, his nemesis and foil, and it’s where he becomes more like Smaug. The gold absolutely bewitches him, while Bilbo gets his heroic costume change, we see the first seeds of Thorin getting his fallen costume change, which eventually turns to black and gold inside the mountain, where Bilbo’s takes on the white of the mitrhil shirt in contrast. Red here is the color of violence in addition to being that of greed and Smaug for Thorin. 

It is worth noting that The Hobbit trilogy is one of those very rare mainstream stories where “home” represents corruption rather than safety and positivity. Both Thorin and Bilbo are worse people in their own homes, Thorin when he returns there, Bilbo before he leaves, and after he comes back, he falls under the thrall of the Ring.

But going back to color symbolism, by donning blue in Lake-town, Bilbo is demonstrating a color change that he is becoming more like Thorin was originally, which becomes critical under the dragon sickness as he tries to remind Thorin of himself, by demonstrating back to him the qualities that Bilbo learned from him. 

At least, that’s how I always saw it 🙂

On Thorin and Madness

Just rambling because it came to mind in response to a comment by @genevievedarcygranger, but one interesting thing about writing Death by Flowers, which is at its heart a silly sex pollen fic which involve an absolutely ludicrous situation of Thorin getting whammied by a Mirkwood aphrodisiac flower is how the question of madness and altered states rose as a result.

The fic was meant to be lighthearted, but while writing it it became impossible to ignore that there’s no way I could fail to mention the fact that (movie) Thorin’s deepest fear is most likely the dragon sickness and its accompanying madness. It’s the one thing he and his family faces which can’t be defeated in battle, and the question remains if there’s even a cure at all once contracted (one could easily make the case that the attack on Moria by Thorin’s people was a result of Thror never being fully free of the sickness and insisting on a hopeless attack in order to acquire more treasure). 

With the pollen, or any other story device where Thorin is place in a mentally altered state (which is admittedly one of my favorite tropes as also seen in my omega Thorin fic Heat, and in the dragon metamorphosis fic Prayers to Broken Stone) – it became impossible to write him authentically without at least giving a nod to the fact that any mentally altered state for Thorin, even a relatively harmless one as seen in Death by Flowers or Heat, runs adjacent to and even overlaps with perhaps his greatest fear which is falling prey to madness. And when he’s totally honest with himself, or Bilbo as the case may be, an altered mental state is a far greater fear for him than battle, pain, or death, probably everything, short of harm coming to his family and loved ones. 

So one of those little threads that you might see in a few of my fics, a little subconscious tic I give to Thorin no matter what situation I write him into, is that little hitch in his voice whenever the topic of madness or any sort of altered mental state comes up. He can’t even say the word “madness” as a joke, and he’s never the one to bring it up willingly unless it’s to actually address a serious topic, it’s only ever people around him who bring it up and he will be silent or flinch if the discussion goes on for too long. 

Actually, I guess you could say for my version of Thorin, “madness” is something of a trigger word and concept for him, going back to losing his grandfather to it but also to all the many people around the world who have talked behind his back (or to his face) about a risk he knows fully well he faces. And let’s not even go into the fact that if the madness isn’t simply genetic or hereditary, if it is directly linked to large quantities of gold like that which lies in Erebor, that every step towards the Mountain is one step closer to the risk of literally his greatest fear in the world. 

Death by Flowers (19335 words) by Avelera
Chapters: 4/4
FandomThe Hobbit – All Media Types
Rating: Explicit
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Bilbo Baggins/Thorin Oakenshield
Characters: Bilbo Baggins, Thorin Oakenshield, Óin
Additional Tags: Sex Pollen, Female Bilbo, Female Bilbo Baggins/Thorin Oakenshield, Mirkwood, Fuck Or Die, Explicit Sexual Content, Cunnilingus, Vaginal Sex, Bondage, Power Exchange, Body Worship, Hallucinations, Aphrodisiacs, happy ending (in every sense), Misunderstandings, Tenderness, Heterosexual Sex, First Time, Humor, Chubby Bilbo

Summary:
Thorin manages to encounter a particularly deadly flower while the Company travels through Mirkwood: a form of sex pollen that may take days to burn out of his system if it doesn’t kill him first, that is unless he can find a partner.

Fortunately, he and Mistress Baggins have grown quite close.

Unfortunately, Thorin has decided not to pursue Bilbo any further until he can court her properly once the Mountain is reclaimed.

It would help if he had informed Bilbo of any of this, especially when an Elvish flower is doing its level best to kill him.

COMPLETE! And now with a bonus epilogue!